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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Elton John sez: Reply with quote

...ban religion.

Religion should be outlawed because it lacks compassion and promotes hatred of homosexuals, gay pop star Elton John said in an interview.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only if we can ban homosexuality, because it promotes hatred towards religion.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Only if we can ban homosexuality, because it promotes hatred towards religion.

inaccurate statement :/
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So is saying that religion promotes hatreds towards gays. There are more religions in the world than Christianity, Judaism and Islam, you know.

What's more, Christianity DOESN'T support hatred towards gays. If I recall, homosexuality is never blatantly called a sin in the Bible, just perverse...ness, and whether that means homosexuality or not is totally up to debate. Secondly, even if the Bible DID declare it a sin, it would still not be grounds for hatred. There's a whole slew of verses that criticize people who hate others for their sins: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone," "Judge not lest ye be judged," etc. People IN religions can be hateful towards homosexuals, but that doesn't mean in the least bit that religion is fundamentally anti-gay. I don't know much about Judaism or Islam, or any other major world religion for that matter, but Christianity definitely isn't. It's stupid people that make it look like it is. And then there's the smaller religions of the world, of which there are thousands. I would be willing to bet that many of them don't give a darn about sexual preference- heck, I'll bet a few are even anti-heterosexuality.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can't ban a state of mind.

Anyway, I agree with this wholeheartedly.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A certain episode of South Park springs to mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atheists shit out of their mouths.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robert goulet wrote:
Mushroom Pie wrote:
Only if we can ban homosexuality, because it promotes hatred towards religion.

inaccurate statement :/


Well so is the converse. That was a pretty ignorant comment on Elton John's part.

Also, Mushroom Pie just pwned.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't give a damn about homosexuality. I'm not gay, and I want to shut all the fundies up.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't people just keep there sex life to themselves and go about their life?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marriage.

It's fine when you're not married, but it's difficult to keep marriage to yourself.

Why don't people keep their religion to themselves and go about their lives?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islam is anti-gay. It doesn't promote hatred, but people tend to hate things that they believe is wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Marriage.

It's fine when you're not married, but it's difficult to keep marriage to yourself.

Why don't people keep their religion to themselves and go about their lives?

I see what you did there.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all i know is that there's but one reference in the bible suggesting homophobia, and it's in leviticus.

steveo could probably correct me on this, but since it's in the old testament and it's in a book that a lot of modern christians take metaphorically, I don't understand why they use it as 'evidence', since there are a billion other phrases in the bible saying how god loves everyone.

i mean, since when was marriage a christian invention? it's been around since before recorded history. NO religion should drag it down, but it's too extreme to ban religion, since most people use it fine and not to any ridiculous extent.

as i've always believed, it is dickheads that use religion as an excuse to promote the unrelated things they want, such as war or homophobia.


oh and as a side note, I agree with the other things elton says in the article.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

way to use it in the completely wrong way, teffen

Xaqwais wrote:
Islam is anti-gay. It doesn't promote hatred, but people tend to hate things that they believe is wrong.


Islam is anti-gay, or do people interpret what the Koran says to be anti-gay?
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