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cyber95 Cheesy Special FX

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say a tripod hotlinking error is equivelant to a bitch-slap. _________________
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ZealousDemon wrote: | | Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote: | | ZealousDemon wrote: | | Do you think it is logically possible, no matter how small that possiblitity is, that a consciousness can terminate? | 4th-dimensionally, or at all? |
**bleep*-slap*
Answer the damn question. |
ok then no, it's not possible for consciousness to terminate in the way you seem to be describing it, since now I really don't think consciousness is bound by time.
Now whether or not it terminates 5th-dimensionally...
well, I'm not sure what moving through the 5th dimension is like...
so I guess it's possible that it's logically possible.
But no, consciousness doesn't terminate when you die here. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Time present and time past
Are both perhaps present in time future,
And time future contained in time past.
If all time is eternally present
All time is unredeemable.
What might have been is an abstraction
Remaining a perpetual possibility
Only in a world of speculation.
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present.
At the still point of the turning world. Neither flesh nor fleshless;
Neither from nor towards; at the still point, there the dance is,
But neither arrest nor movement. And do not call it fixity,
Where past and future are gathered. Neither movement from nor towards,
Neither ascent nor decline. Except for the point, the still point,
There would be no dance, and there is only the dance.
I can only say, there we have been: but I cannot say where.
And I cannot say, how long, for that is to place it in time.
The inner freedom from the practical desire,
The release from action and suffering, release from the inner
And the outer compulsion, yet surrounded
By a grace of sense, a white light still and moving,
Erhebung without motion, concentration
Without elimination, both a new world
And the old made explicit, understood
In the completion of its partial ecstasy,
The resolution of its partial horror.
Yet the enchainment of past and future
Woven in the weakness of the changing body,
Protects mankind from heaven and damnation
Which flesh cannot endure.
.............................................................................................................................................Time past and time future
Allow but a little consciousness.
To be conscious is not to be in time
But only in time can the moment in the rose-garden,
The moment in the arbour where the rain beat,
The moment in the draughty church at smokefall
Be remembered; involved with past and future.
Only through time time is conquered. |
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ZealousDemon Rare Spawn

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote: | | ok then no, it's not possible for consciousness to terminate in the way you seem to be describing it, since now I really don't think consciousness is bound by time. |
If you don't think that it's logically possible for a conscious to terminate, you'll need a valid logical arguement that it can't.
Making assumptions doesn't work here. Saying "I think" doesn't work. You need something that plainly shows how it is logically impossible for a conscious to terminate. You have presented nothing but what you "believe". You "know" nothing.
If you cannot present a logical arguement (and you yourself have stated you can't when you said "I can't prove you wrong"), than you MUST consider it a possibility. |
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think it's a possibility, I just can't convince you. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
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the bunk requiem for a bro

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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why are you so 100% sure, is what he's getting at. For you to be so confident of such a thing, there has to be a reason (and for you to be one hundred percent sure of anything there has to be some pretty damn good evidence.) What's your reason? _________________
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ZealousDemon Rare Spawn

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote: | | I don't think it's a possibility, I just can't convince you. |
Try me.
So far you haven't convinced me because you haven't presented a logical arguement. Present a logical arguement and maybe you'll convince me. |
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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well, I could say:
consciousness is 5th-dimensional
therefore it cannot terminate in the fourth dimension. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
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Mavhunter The Magical Mr. Ringo

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Enough with the Star Trek crap, man, speak some biology or something to me. _________________
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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consciousness itself isn't biological. It interfaces with our brains biologically, but I don't think it's biological in and of itself. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
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Mavhunter The Magical Mr. Ringo

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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um... I'm not sure if Scientologists believe Thetans are biological entities or not... however, the way they refer to them, it seems like they do.
Nah, I think consciousness is not of time. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
"The Chicken of Lust" |
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ZealousDemon Rare Spawn

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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote: | consciousness is 5th-dimensional
therefore it cannot terminate in the fourth dimension. |
| Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote: | | Nah, I think consciousness is not of time. |
So your arguement actually looks like this.
"I THINK consciousness is 5th-dimensional
therefore it cannot terminate in the fourth dimension."
Not a logical arguement. For this arguement to work you have to KNOW that consciousness is 5th-dimensional. Try again. |
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Its_The_Sneak!!! Blocked by SOPA

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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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ok then, consider it known. _________________ Come into my den let me hear you cluck
You can be my hen and we can f(Bu-GAWK)
A bite to the leg, it's time to play
Baby, let me be your egg that needs to get laid.
- CEO Nwabudike Morgan
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Needle Dog Boyo

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Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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This has become the flimsiest debate I've ever seen. _________________
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