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Mushroom Pie
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Why are they trying a Hulk movie again? You'd think that with the last one they'd be scared of trying it.
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I think they are trying to redeem their failure with this one. They did say they're taking it in a different direction as far as the atmosphere goes.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| Mushroom Pie wrote: | | Why are they trying a Hulk movie again? You'd think that with the last one they'd be scared of trying it. |
nah, they made twice their budget back despite the overwhelmingly bad reviews. it just shows that there's still a huge market for comic book movies with high profile actors...i mean, why the fuck else did anyone see Ghost Rider?
and this all doesnt matter because edward norton is the hulk holy shit
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yeh seriously.
this is going to be pretty damn cool, I mean the 03 one had potential but it sucked.
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| Rocky Sullivan wrote: | | this is going to be pretty damn cool, I mean the 03 one had potential but it sucked. |
I'm in agreement. Here are the things wrong with the first Incredible Hulk movie:
1. bad bruce banner-to-hulk screentime ratio. I mean, we paid to see the Hulk smash shit, and there was precious little of that in the movie. The smash-em-up scenes were pretty good, I thought, but too little too late.
2. A shitty subplot about the Absorbing Man that was unnecessary and poorly executed. I don't understand why a comic book movie has to be crammed with additional characters and subplots, when a better-developed main plot would be better. Case in point: X-Men 3, Hellboy, Daredevil (So they paid Colin Farrell like a zillion dollars for a few lines, just to try and cram Bullseye in the movie?)
3. Comic-book-panel type cuts during scenes where nothing important was happening.
4. Not enough Hulk.
5. Not enough smashing of tanks and private property.
6. Not enough Hulk smashing private property.
Did I mention the incredible shortage of Incredible Hulk in the Incredible Hulk movie?
Hopefully this one will succeed where the last attempt failed. I honestly don't understand why the movie makers feel obligated to adapt the lengthy origin story. I mean... who doesn't know the story behind Spider-Man or the Hulk? In any case, origin stories are the sort of thing that can be bashed out in two minutes at the start of the film, leaving more valuable screentime for things that won't bore us to tears. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: |
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a lot of people feel that the origin story is the most interesting part...hell, that's why Heroes gets such good ratings
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| Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| Origin stories are for the nerds who'd rather read the comics anyway! |
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But lots of people already know the origin story of the Hulk, whereas Heroes is completely new and not based on anything.
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| DJ The Stick wrote: | But lots of people already know the origin story of the Hulk, whereas Heroes is completely new and not based on anything.
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My feelings exactly. For instance, remember Tim Burton's Batman? It had elements of origin story, but let's face it: everybody knows the basics of Batman's origin story. The movie showed a couple of brief scenes that gave everyone the general idea, but there was no reason to drag it out for the whole length of the movie, as they did in Hulk. To me, the most interesting part of Hulk lore is Bruce Banner drifting from town to town as a man with problems, trying to cope with the fact that he turns into Lou Ferigno.
Now, Wolverine Origins as a movie, I'd be down for that. But then, who wouldn't? |
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i was just playing devil's advocate. HULK was pretty boring.
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| robert goulet wrote: | | i was just playing devil's advocate. |
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| Batman begins kinda screwed with Batman's origin, though, didn't it? |
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Only the part about Ra's Al Ghul being part of his training, and Scarecrow being his first major villain. Joe Chill, Falcone, all that stuff is ripped straight from the comics. Well, not in the 300 "use the comic as a rough layout" way, but in the "all this stuff happened really early in Batman's life" way. I'm pretty sure a lot of the movie was based on Batman: Year One.
Who was Batman's first major villain anyhow? I would assume the Joker, but you never know.
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| Mushroom Pie wrote: | | Who was Batman's first major villain anyhow? I would assume the Joker, but you never know. |
Doctor Death was the first real villain to appear in the comics, I believe, but nobody cares about him. I think one of the "retro," Year One-inspired Batman stories has Hugo Strange as his first supervillain, but there's another who-cares character, really, although he was like the second or third major villain introduced in the pre-Batman Batman comics. But yeah, it's not like the continuity in Batman comics is perfect, anyway (take Year One, for example). . .
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