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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see why we can't base society's morals on Humanism.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teffen wrote:
I don't see why we can't base society's morals on Humanism.
doesn't humanism say morality and ethics are in-born?

So if you believe in humanism, then they are.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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excellent post steveo. surprisingly, it wasn't followed by some sort of animated kitten gif. but still, very good points.


Oooop, sorry to dissappoint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KZzzgtLwuM

Actually I KNOW it should be in the vid thread, and it is, but I think it would be a funny to look on the lighter side of the fundie issue.

Thanx all for your support. Ever since 'Rules you have all been so cool concerning my sexuality. Bless you all. Being gay, I have been spat on, bashed into unconsciouness, and even kicked out of my church. Thjroughout all this, I maintained my faith, and God has been good to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until he throws you into hell for being a fag.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agnostic is probably what i am, but somehow i feel loath to actually lump myself in that category. i definitely don't believe in god. i believe in science more so, but not even that completely. buddhism seems to capture my beliefs in the best way, zen's starting to capture my imagination--but i doubt i'm capable of practicing the religion the way it's meant to be practiced.

from what i know of humanism is that it's also kind of abstract, well, at least from skimming the wikipedia article. (it's never been of much interest to me, honestly.) but i think religion fulfills a greater part of society than just morals alone--it's just as important for its social structure and stuff. like in my one class, discussions have been on the role of religion in asian immigrant communities. religion in many ways takes the place of an ethnic identity, and provides a community to those who are moving in, and support from people in the same boat, along with assisting to provide an education in their native culture. protestant communities can also serve as an important meeting point, a support group, shared ideals, whatever. the structure has its uses.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
Teffen wrote:
I don't see why we can't base society's morals on Humanism.
doesn't humanism say morality and ethics are in-born?

So if you believe in humanism, then they are.

But people force there beliefs over others, so it's not entirely Humanistic.
I suppose it would need to be change a bit because enforcing Humanism on everyone would be still be forcing a religion/belief on people.

Dammit, it never ends.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karma. It doesn't exist physically but rather is a mind set of society that many of us don't pay attention to. Remaining respectful and mindfull of others and not meaninglessly forceful of others would stop much of the negative energy man

Gay's are Gay and that's what they are, there's no relevance in trying to change that fact. It leads to the production of a negative energy that could quickly envelope others and create hatred man. Like ease up and think about how your thoughts and actions influence others.

If god cared, he would much rather have us be peaceful and mindful rather then obliterating each other over something that has no answer.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lt.Zerge wrote:
karma
buddhist version of karma, hindu version of karma, bad karma, good karma, karma that carries over to the next life, karma with you for this life, what about it?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

von Karma?

I'm christian, but I really don't believe in hell. Jack Chick made fun of my view, so I know it's probably legit.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lt.Zerge wrote:
If god cared, he would much rather have us be peaceful and mindful rather then obliterating each other over something that has no answer.

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He would. But go read Revelation.

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Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
von Karma?

I'm christian, but I really don't believe in hell. Jack Chick made fun of my view, so I know it's probably legit.

"My Name is Earl"s Earl believes in Karma so it's probably not true.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

revelation was a dream.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otogi-san wrote:
Lt.Zerge wrote:
If god cared, he would much rather have us be peaceful and mindful rather then obliterating each other over something that has no answer.

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He would. But go read Revelation.

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after that, read Left Behind.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
revelation was a dream.

Jesus showed a John what was to come.

Edit: Not "a John". Jesus didn't show a restroom anything. Devastated.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fruiterian wrote:
Otogi-san wrote:
Lt.Zerge wrote:
If god cared, he would much rather have us be peaceful and mindful rather then obliterating each other over something that has no answer.

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He would. But go read Revelation.

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after that, read Left Behind.

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Fictional Novel series.

-love that other crazy dan guy who is really the same (onaji)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in a dream. Jesus taught a Greg how to pilot an airplane in another dream.

And let's not split hairs over fiction.... Neutral
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