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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: michael moore's sicko Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joaAfBr9tAE

looks good
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it does

though he seems to look worse than ever
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn!
This is something I can agree with.

Looks great.
I just hope he doesn't end up devoting half of it to Bush bashing again.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I FORGIVE Micheal Moore of ALL his wrongdoing because of THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33-_9nOX8KM

This vid had me ROFL. Take that Fred!
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steveo wrote:
I FORGIVE Micheal Moore of ALL his wrongdoing because of THIS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33-_9nOX8KM

This vid had me ROFL. Take that Fred!


Haha, that's kinda old, but still funny.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it when Fred goes:

"oh mercy, here come the fags!"
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I saw the first showing at the theatre (12:30). It was great. Sure, it was a bit fluffy on focusing only on the healthcare aspect of other countries and none of their other issues, but it was a tremendous film, and I'm gonna go dismantle our government or move to Europe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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move to Europe.
that one. ASAP.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need summa dis up in hurr:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
Mavhunter wrote:
move to Europe.
that one. ASAP.

Or Canukada. Unless Moore happened to mention in the movie how bad our health care is too. In that case, yeah, Europe.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
Mavhunter wrote:
move to Europe.
that one. ASAP.

Or Canukada. Unless Moore happened to mention in the movie how bad our health care is too. In that case, yeah, Europe.

No, he likes yours adn goes pretty far into detail with some specific people, including his relatives who moved to Canada.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, my co-worker was telling me how bad his canadian relatives had it with their healthcare. He tells me it's fine if you need to get care for broken bones and stuff, but if you need major surgery, you're probably going to die before the paperwork goes through. He also told me about some companies in the US whose entire business model is importing canadian patients to have work done, paying out of pocket, simply because they can't wait for the canadian government to process their request to have surgery.

Privatized health care wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so greedy about it. If we could get politicians who wouldn't take the HMOs' money, or wealthy counter-lobbyists who would pay politicians for being for national health care...
whatever. We don't need national health care, we just need the threat of it to scare the HMOs into getting into line.
Or just read your contract very carefully, know your rights, and when they pull stupid crap, sue.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mavhunter wrote:
We need summa dis up in hurr:


What does the plight of the Basque country/people have to do with health care? I mean, there's violence and everything with the Basque, that's like, a different story and a different reason for marching...

There's problems with both models, but I'd rather have national than privatized, personally--though I remember reading about Sweden... they have national health care and all, but the quality of the heath care has suffered. You shouldn't have to sue to get freaking health care either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer privatized. If we had honest HMOs, it'd be better... if only because the government beaurocrats couldn't get their grubby hands into the health insurance money and use it to buy cars.
Too bad that's what HMO higher-ups do anyway Sad

I mean.. that's what health insurance is... it's supposed to be a bank. You give them money in case you need it for medical care... and they lend you money if you go over what you've already paid, to be paid back with your insurance payments.

If only they worked that way... where they'd just pay for whatever medical procedure you want until you've hit a credit limit, with special cases made if you absolutely need the care. Instead it's just "we're not paying for this" and "we're not paying for that."

I mean, if you've already given them more money than it's going to take for them to pay the bill for something, then why should they have any problem paying it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its_The_Sneak!!! wrote:
yeah, my co-worker was telling me how bad his canadian relatives had it with their healthcare. He tells me it's fine if you need to get care for broken bones and stuff, but if you need major surgery, you're probably going to die before the paperwork goes through. He also told me about some companies in the US whose entire business model is importing canadian patients to have work done, paying out of pocket, simply because they can't wait for the canadian government to process their request to have surgery.

I think the average wait time for non-emergency surgery is 11.85 weeks or something. It's pretty redonculous.
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