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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the best way to feel that you control the plot of the game is having one, unvariable outcome, regardless of what happens before it? That makes zero sense whatsoever.


No, I'm saying that companies make multiple endings so that you feel like you are basically in control of what happens.

I say that it just turns into a headache because you want the best ending.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dodger wrote:
So the best way to feel that you control the plot of the game is having one, unvariable outcome, regardless of what happens before it? That makes zero sense whatsoever.


No, I'm saying that companies make multiple endings so that you feel like you are basically in control of what happens.

I say that it just turns into a headache because you want the best ending.


Uh, you do? I usually want to see ALL the endings.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And searching for the "best" ending usually means looking up information about all the endings in advance. In my mind that sort of, you know, spoils the endings. And also makes moot any discussion about how linear / non-linear a game is.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Uh, you do? I usually want to see ALL the endings.


I just go to YouTube for that.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All three of these franchises have a ridiculous amount of lore and story to them, and I think it's arguable that the Warcraft universe in particular has the most extensive lore ever created in the medium.


Warcraft, maybe, but Diablo was fairly light on for lore, for the most part.


At least, in the parts where you have to go click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click




click

I understand there are books, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Warcraft, maybe


I think the best thing about Warcraft lore is what WoW often does to it. "Oh, the axe that literally killed a god drops in the first raid you're likely to do when you hit 70 off of a boss who has no real reason to have it and, in terms of actually using it to kill other players, is pretty much inferior to a mace you can make yourself? That makes sense."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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possums wrote:
Uh, you do? I usually want to see ALL the endings.


I just go to YouTube for that.


And the information age googles its tragic flaw.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ZealousDemon wrote:
possums wrote:
Uh, you do? I usually want to see ALL the endings.


I just go to YouTube for that.


And the information age googles its tragic flaw.


Eh, I would rather see most/all of the content the game has to offer after one playthrough, and not have to deal with going through the game X more number of times.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Plus I thought the evil ending sucked and was a total non-sequitir.

i just finished the game and i agree. it had such and awesome narrative until the 2 minute conclusion that was really unsatisfying. still great game will play sequel.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got partway through bioshock, but it was rented and I had to give it back. I was saving all the little sisters.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

play the good ending play the good ending play the good ending.

Also, the WoW expansion and subsequent patches ruined much of the continuity of the plot.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WoW had a plot?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still does, really. It just doesn't make as much sense now.
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